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it will have no effect on deficit. no effect on rescuing us. and i think republicans ought not play that game. it doesn't help the income. >> to answer your question, the middle class tax cuts are permanent. and the response to charles would be that the obama white house believes it will help the economy. >> they're completely wrong. that is the problem. >> bret: next up, the friday lightning round. [ "odd couple" theme plays ] humans -- even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why, at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. see what else mes standard at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? >> bret: every week, viewers vote for your choice online in the lightning round poll. and this week, cabinet reshuffle won with 36% of the vote. back with the panel. okay, bill. susan rice hasn't been dominated for everything but we think she might be nominated for secretary of state.
it will have no effect on deficit. no effect on rescuing us. and i think republicans ought not play that game. it doesn't help the income. >> to answer your question, the middle class tax cuts are permanent. and the response to charles would be that the obama white house believes it will help the economy. >> they're completely wrong. that is the problem. >> bret: next up, the friday lightning round. [ "odd couple" theme plays ] humans -- even when we cross our t's...
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warren rudman went on to found the coalition that pushed for reducing the deficit. senator rudman died this month at the age of 82. >>> and former president george h.w. bush in a hospital treated for bronchitis, he is listed in stable condition and expected to be released within 72 hours. his doctors described him as pretty much as normal, happy, joking with the staff and getting better. >>> up next as nightly news continues. the guessing game over who won that giant powerball, and what some people have noticed about the winning numbers and the pattern they follow. >>> and later, the random act of kindness caught on camera that is getting a lot of attention for all the right reasons. t powerball, you may be curious about who did, there are two big winning tickets and the second largest jackpot in american history, in missouri and arizona, more from dearborn, missouri, where one of the tickets was sold. kerry, also very curious about this secret code imbedded in one of the winning numbers >> reporter: very interesting, one ticket was sold here at this gas station,he
warren rudman went on to found the coalition that pushed for reducing the deficit. senator rudman died this month at the age of 82. >>> and former president george h.w. bush in a hospital treated for bronchitis, he is listed in stable condition and expected to be released within 72 hours. his doctors described him as pretty much as normal, happy, joking with the staff and getting better. >>> up next as nightly news continues. the guessing game over who won that giant...
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you can't -- >> we've had 18 debt and deficit commissions since '81. the cuts never came. >> cynicism isn't a plan though, eric. we need to put forward a plan. can't just keep saying they're screwing it up. >> if you don't put cuts in though with tax increase, you've got a problem because it's easy to raise taxes on a few people. most people will not support cuts that hurt them. >> you've got to have entitlement reform. >> you can actually lower rates, close loopholes and raise revenue. >> all right. thanks to both. appreciate it. more than two months after the deadly attack in benghazi, investigators are still looking for answers and today, the fbi turned to facebook for help and a possible turning point in syria. the obama administration tonight weighing whether to take a big step and involve arming the rebels. ded it. and that makes me feel pretty good about it. and then i heard about a study looking at multivitamins and the long term health benefits. and what do you know? they used centrum silver in the study. makes me feel even better, that's what
you can't -- >> we've had 18 debt and deficit commissions since '81. the cuts never came. >> cynicism isn't a plan though, eric. we need to put forward a plan. can't just keep saying they're screwing it up. >> if you don't put cuts in though with tax increase, you've got a problem because it's easy to raise taxes on a few people. most people will not support cuts that hurt them. >> you've got to have entitlement reform. >> you can actually lower rates, close...
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they're not about to do anything that helps with the deficit. they want higher taxes to spend even more money to put even more power in washington, d.c. to have an even bigger bureaucracy. >> greta: all right. let me tell you one other thing that i thought was surprising today. secretary of treasury tim geithner proposed limiting purview over the federal borrowing limit, which is another way of saying give the president, any future president, give the president without a limit, without conceive sight. is that how you see that? >> sure. if you were a liberal, you wanted to run up the biggest possible deficit. frankly the congress ought to move in the opposite direction and start hearings of oversight on the federal reserve, which has put far more money into the economy than the treasury has, and which has yielded far more economic power the treasury. the amount of power that ben bernanke has chairman of the federal reserve is totally inappropriate in a free society. again, i would have the house republicans organize virtually every committee and
they're not about to do anything that helps with the deficit. they want higher taxes to spend even more money to put even more power in washington, d.c. to have an even bigger bureaucracy. >> greta: all right. let me tell you one other thing that i thought was surprising today. secretary of treasury tim geithner proposed limiting purview over the federal borrowing limit, which is another way of saying give the president, any future president, give the president without a limit, without...
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stuart: you're saying, oh, he left a deficit. it was congressional spending that led it a deficit. let's get back to the original argument. if you now, right now, lowered tax rates you would increase revenue to the treasury. >> you and i disagree on that. you and i disagree on that and i know my history and-- >> you think that by imposing higher tax rates, massive tax increase. >> no, no, not on everyone, not on everyone. stuart: tell me how you're going to get growth when you raise taxes by a trillion 6. go. >> are you talking about deficit reduction or growth. if you're talking about growth. stuart: growth in the economy. >> of course it's a combination of things and it's a matter of-- i believe na a bigger stimulus, for example. stuart: do you believe if we put this plan, the president's plan into practice now. >> i don't think the president's plan will be put into practice. stuart: do you think that we'd get 4 or 5% growth? >> i don't think it's a realistic plan, i said it from day one. stuart: and if we raise taxes, that's the heart of this thing, if we raise taxes do you thin
stuart: you're saying, oh, he left a deficit. it was congressional spending that led it a deficit. let's get back to the original argument. if you now, right now, lowered tax rates you would increase revenue to the treasury. >> you and i disagree on that. you and i disagree on that and i know my history and-- >> you think that by imposing higher tax rates, massive tax increase. >> no, no, not on everyone, not on everyone. stuart: tell me how you're going to get growth when you...
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plus, the president is announcing that he doesn't even want to put it towards deficit spending. he wants to do new spending, new stimulus, new infrastructure, new education. there's not one word of entitlement reform, social security reform, medicare reform. the structural debt. let me tell you what the leverage is, cornel. you want to know what the heart of the electorate is? it's the senate democrats who are elected in the last midterms and the senate democrats that were elected this time on a debt reform, spending reform, entitlement reform. those are your senate democrats who couldn't even pass something that was half as bad as this. you're not -- this is worse than laughable. it's despicable. >> a couple of things. one, mary, i love you in red. two is that look, what's wrong with us going back to quite frankly the rate under bill clinton? you remember the clinton years? the largest economic expansion in our history? everyone's boat rising, everyone paying their fair share, deficit reduction, the middle class growing. the problem with what republicans want to do right now, w
plus, the president is announcing that he doesn't even want to put it towards deficit spending. he wants to do new spending, new stimulus, new infrastructure, new education. there's not one word of entitlement reform, social security reform, medicare reform. the structural debt. let me tell you what the leverage is, cornel. you want to know what the heart of the electorate is? it's the senate democrats who are elected in the last midterms and the senate democrats that were elected this time on...
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the government was able to sink its annual deficit from 32% to 8.5% of gdp, and it is paying much lower interest on government bonds, and the irish economy is growing. only unemployment remains stubbornly high. in october, the jobless rate was still above the eurozone average at 14.7%, but in countries hard hit by the euro crisis, there were even more people out of work, and an increase, and employment is one of 25%. in spain, 26% were one in two young people is out of work. things are not quite that grim in italy, but more and more young people are looking for work. the youth unemployment rate is 36%, the highest since june 2004. >> we have to take a short break, but when we come back, december 1 is world aids day. we will be taking a look at the problem of hiv/aids. >> and what is germany going to do with all its nuclear waste? stay with us for that. >> thanks for staying with us. >> welcome back. one of the consequences of the breakdown of public services in the wake of the economic crisis in greece is a sharp spike up people they're infected with aids. >> on the eve of world aids da
the government was able to sink its annual deficit from 32% to 8.5% of gdp, and it is paying much lower interest on government bonds, and the irish economy is growing. only unemployment remains stubbornly high. in october, the jobless rate was still above the eurozone average at 14.7%, but in countries hard hit by the euro crisis, there were even more people out of work, and an increase, and employment is one of 25%. in spain, 26% were one in two young people is out of work. things are not...
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we have a $16 trillion deficit and the president wants to spend more money. are you kidding me? >> all right, jess. what do the serious negotiations take place here? that he puts an offer on the table to secretary geithner. the republicans are now angry. where is the next step here? >> well, you know, it's up to the republicans to come back with something, and now we're waiting to see what their next move will be. you know, the republicans' position is this was an unreasonable offer and it does not balance out with enough spending cuts. they want to refocus on spending cuts instead of tax increases. we should expect to see something from republicans that will be more heavily focused on the cuts. you know, the white house is very clear. they are not going to give on that increase on tax rates. that's where the fight will take place over the mechanics few weeks. >> we'll see if there's any republican reaction to the president's plan there because, obviously, he is using all the tools that he has to push forward his plan. we'll see how they come up with the alternative. thanks, jes
we have a $16 trillion deficit and the president wants to spend more money. are you kidding me? >> all right, jess. what do the serious negotiations take place here? that he puts an offer on the table to secretary geithner. the republicans are now angry. where is the next step here? >> well, you know, it's up to the republicans to come back with something, and now we're waiting to see what their next move will be. you know, the republicans' position is this was an unreasonable offer...
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that is how we will reduce the deficit by creating jobs. every time we came to the idea of bold balance, the rivet a question was the hurdle and it is still does. we cannot get there from here in terms of deficit reduction. you can grow your way he to there, but you have to have the revenue as a confidence-building that we are responsible. we will get the job done. he had ended their meeting to go to so he is not here with us now. why am i confident? it is the right thing to do. americans deserve this to happen. it is only the decision to make tough choices. this is not easy. it is necessary. i have confidence that my republican colleagues will see the light and pass a middle income tax cut so they can go from there. >> we want the whole package, of course. the easiest thing to send a message to the public that the middle income tax cuts will continue is to pass the bill. this is stage one. we would like to see a multi trillion dollar stage one with substantial cuts. we have already passed over one trillion dollars. the expiration of the hi
that is how we will reduce the deficit by creating jobs. every time we came to the idea of bold balance, the rivet a question was the hurdle and it is still does. we cannot get there from here in terms of deficit reduction. you can grow your way he to there, but you have to have the revenue as a confidence-building that we are responsible. we will get the job done. he had ended their meeting to go to so he is not here with us now. why am i confident? it is the right thing to do. americans...
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we have put down our down payment towards deficit reduction by saying that we believe that $1 trillion or so over the next decade of those tax cuts above and beyond a quarter of a million dollars can go to deficit reduction. our republican colleagues need to say specifically what they want to cut. when they say entitlements, entitlements is medicare and medicaid. what do you want to do about medicare and medicaid? put it on the table, let us know. let the american people know. then we can ultimately come to a conclusion and maybe have that celebration you're looking for, piers. >> senator menendez, good to talk to you. thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> when we come back, i talk to leaders on both sides of the palestinian debate. do they think today's vote threatens the peace process? aveeno has an oat formula, now proven to build a moisture reserve, so skin can replenish itself. that's healthy skin for life. only from aveeno. as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and only, cheerios ...but you still have to go to the gym.
we have put down our down payment towards deficit reduction by saying that we believe that $1 trillion or so over the next decade of those tax cuts above and beyond a quarter of a million dollars can go to deficit reduction. our republican colleagues need to say specifically what they want to cut. when they say entitlements, entitlements is medicare and medicaid. what do you want to do about medicare and medicaid? put it on the table, let us know. let the american people know. then we can...
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we have put down our down payment towards deficit reduction by saying that we believe that $1 trillion or so over the next decade of those tax cuts above and beyond a quarter of a million dollars can go to deficit reduction. our republican colleagues need to say specifically what they want to cut. when they say entitlements, entitlements is medicare and medicaid. what do you want to do about medicare and medicaid? put it on the table, let us know. let the american people know. then we can ultimately come to a conclusion and maybe have that celebration you're looking for, piers. >> senator menendez, good to talk to you. thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> when we come back, i talk to leaders on both sides of the palestinian debate. do they think today's vote threatens the peace process? [ nurse ] i'm a hospice nurse. britta olsen is my patient. i spend long hours with her checking her heart rate, administering her medication, and just making her comfortable. one night britta told me about a tradition in denmark, "when a person dies," she said, "someone must open the window so the sou
we have put down our down payment towards deficit reduction by saying that we believe that $1 trillion or so over the next decade of those tax cuts above and beyond a quarter of a million dollars can go to deficit reduction. our republican colleagues need to say specifically what they want to cut. when they say entitlements, entitlements is medicare and medicaid. what do you want to do about medicare and medicaid? put it on the table, let us know. let the american people know. then we can...
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so our view of the optimal way to deal with this is to not worry about today's fiscal deficit because that's a consequence of where the economy is. absorb that and make a credible commitment bipartisan enshrined in law to deal with this by having a phased in entitlement reform. it's very hard as a practical matter to see that happening without a bond market crisis. >> and we don't have much time, but what would be the key planning of that entitlement reform? >> rolling back the unfunded medicare giveaways of the second george w. bush administration. >> medicare and medicaid combined 20%. so huge. we want to give you a quick sense of the agenda in the u.s. october personal income and intending with the savings rate will be out at 8:30 a.m. eastern. at 10:00 a.m., we'll get the november chicago pmi. expected to show a reading of 50 which is a slight uptick from last month. and an important gauge of the ism data that we'll get later. stick around because straight ahead, a welcome phillip for japan as factory output rises for the first time in four months. is the worst finally over? we'll
so our view of the optimal way to deal with this is to not worry about today's fiscal deficit because that's a consequence of where the economy is. absorb that and make a credible commitment bipartisan enshrined in law to deal with this by having a phased in entitlement reform. it's very hard as a practical matter to see that happening without a bond market crisis. >> and we don't have much time, but what would be the key planning of that entitlement reform? >> rolling back the...
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we deficit spend between $3 billion and $4 billion a day. now if the president wants to raise taxes on the wealthiest americans that's going to help hand al couple days, literally days, worth of our problem but how will we solve the overall thing. if we aren't going to tackle entitlements and not cut spending you will have trouble getting through the house of representatives because we're committed to those principles. we've got to tackle and make the difficult choices. >> what about his $400 billion in medicare? is your problem with it that it's not specified? do you want to see a more specific laundry list or do you have to produce a laundry list before he's going to come up with his? is this a giant game of chicken. >> >> that's what's unfortunate. that's what i think the parties should be sitting at a table, speaker boehner is on the absolute right track, shown a willingness to be able to talk about things that we haven't been able to talk about before and they need to sit down and hash this out. there's nothing like a deadline to drive
we deficit spend between $3 billion and $4 billion a day. now if the president wants to raise taxes on the wealthiest americans that's going to help hand al couple days, literally days, worth of our problem but how will we solve the overall thing. if we aren't going to tackle entitlements and not cut spending you will have trouble getting through the house of representatives because we're committed to those principles. we've got to tackle and make the difficult choices. >> what about his...
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here's the big picture-- $4 trillion of deficit reduction over the next 10 years. it includes $1.6 trillion in higher taxes on households make manage more than $250,000. there's also $400 billion in cuts to entitlement programs, like medicaid and medicare, as well as others. there is also fresh new aending. $50 billion next year in stimulus spending, all for infrastructure. the white house calls this an opening bid. house republicans call it a rehash of old ideas and also object to the idea of a white house asking a permanent legislative remedy to raising the debt ceiling, all of it, the republicans say rather, is unacceptable. now much of this was conveyed in a 28-minute phone conversation yesterday between president obama and house speaker john boehner. both sides describe that conversation, scott, as direct and candid. those are words custom early reserved for diplomacy between sworn adversaries and tonight that might be where we are. >> pelley: major, thanks very much. now, have a look at these two pictures. president obama and mitt romney at the final debate,
here's the big picture-- $4 trillion of deficit reduction over the next 10 years. it includes $1.6 trillion in higher taxes on households make manage more than $250,000. there's also $400 billion in cuts to entitlement programs, like medicaid and medicare, as well as others. there is also fresh new aending. $50 billion next year in stimulus spending, all for infrastructure. the white house calls this an opening bid. house republicans call it a rehash of old ideas and also object to the idea of...
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fourth quarter now, brees trying to cut into the deficit with two minutes left. he throws behind the receiver and moore is there again for another pick. five interceptions on the night for brees, the first time he's ever had five interceptions in a game. his nfl record streak of 54 consecutive games with a touchdown pass also came to an end in this one as the falcons win, 23-13. they can now clinch the division title this weekend if the bucs lose to the broncos. >>> to college football now. louisville facing rutgers for the big east championship and a bcs bowl berth. gary nova drops back and finds brandon coleman who gets past the cardinals' secondary and goes all the way down the line -- sideline untouched for an 85-yard touchdown to give the scarlet knights an early lead. rutgers up four in the third quarter. bridgewater gives the cardinals the lead with the beautiful pass to the back of the end zone. bridgewater leads his team to the 20-17 win despite playing with a broken wrist and a sprained ankle. good lord. cardinals are going to the second-ever bcs bowl g
fourth quarter now, brees trying to cut into the deficit with two minutes left. he throws behind the receiver and moore is there again for another pick. five interceptions on the night for brees, the first time he's ever had five interceptions in a game. his nfl record streak of 54 consecutive games with a touchdown pass also came to an end in this one as the falcons win, 23-13. they can now clinch the division title this weekend if the bucs lose to the broncos. >>> to college football...
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and i want to do all this while bringing down our deficits in a balanced and responsible way. [applause] now, on this last point you've probably heard a lot of talk in washington and in the media about the deadlines that we're facing on jobs and taxes and investments. this is not some run-of-the-mill debate. this isn't about which political party can come out on top in negotiations. we've got important decisions to make that are going to have a real impact on businesses and families all across the country. our ultimate goal, our long-term goal is to get our long-term deficit under control in a way that is balanced and is fair. that'd be with good for businesses, for our economy, for future generations. and i believe both parties can and will work together in the coming weeks to get that done. we know how that gets done. we're going to have to raise a little more revenue, we've got to cut out spending we don't need building on the trillion dollars of spending cuts we've already made, and if we combine those two things, we can create a path where america's paying its bills while
and i want to do all this while bringing down our deficits in a balanced and responsible way. [applause] now, on this last point you've probably heard a lot of talk in washington and in the media about the deadlines that we're facing on jobs and taxes and investments. this is not some run-of-the-mill debate. this isn't about which political party can come out on top in negotiations. we've got important decisions to make that are going to have a real impact on businesses and families all across...
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two summers ago, congress realized that if they couldn't compromise on a deficit and revenue plan, our economy would crash. turns out they couldn't compromise. so here's what they did. in order to force themselves to work together and compromise, they concocted a catastrophic penalty that would itself crash our economy. put it another way. if there was an asteroid headed towards the earth, we made it and fired it at ourselves. because otherwise we would never have done the hard work required to protect ourselves from asteroids. >> see, that's one way of looking at it. yes. >>> halle berry's thanksgiving day drama seems to be winding down. progress has been made regarding the holiday fistfight between hallry berry's ex-boyfriend, gabriel aubry, and her current fiance. in a statement, berry's lawyer said she and aubrey have reached an amicable agreement. berry had a restraining order put into effect after that fight to keep aubrey from seeing their 4-year-old daughter. >>> so lindsay lohan, she's done it again, arrested thursday for allegedly punching a woman in the face in a new york ci
two summers ago, congress realized that if they couldn't compromise on a deficit and revenue plan, our economy would crash. turns out they couldn't compromise. so here's what they did. in order to force themselves to work together and compromise, they concocted a catastrophic penalty that would itself crash our economy. put it another way. if there was an asteroid headed towards the earth, we made it and fired it at ourselves. because otherwise we would never have done the hard work required to...
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the president took to the road, while republicans warned there's a deadlock in efforts to reach a deficit deal. >> now, of course, santa delivers everywhere. i've been keeping my own naughty and nice lists for washington. >> warner: the president chose a seasonal setting, a toy factory in hatfield, pennsylvania, and holiday imagery to press again for extending tax cuts for the middle class. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes automatically go up on january 1. i mean, i... i'm assuming that doesn't sound too good to you. >> no. >> that's sort of like the lump of coal you get for christmas. that's a scrooge christmas. >> warner: in washington, republicans portrayed the road trip as so much humbug, at a time, they said, when negotiations are going nowhere. >> there's a stalemate. let's not kid ourselves. >> warner: house speaker john boehner said republicans remain willing to raise revenues, but not by raising tax rates. and he charged the white house isn't negotiating in good faith. >> the day after the election, i said the republican majority wo
the president took to the road, while republicans warned there's a deadlock in efforts to reach a deficit deal. >> now, of course, santa delivers everywhere. i've been keeping my own naughty and nice lists for washington. >> warner: the president chose a seasonal setting, a toy factory in hatfield, pennsylvania, and holiday imagery to press again for extending tax cuts for the middle class. >> if congress does nothing, every family in america will see their income taxes...
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here's the level of deficit reduction i can reach. if you think you can reach the same or more with more spending cuts, you go first and name them. >> yeah. >> so richard, we have everybody playing chicken for the most part. it's kabuki. you show your spending cuts and then i'll show mine. >> right. it failed before when the president was negotiating against himself. look, i'm going to come back. $400 billion of medicare cuts is exactly what you would want democrats to do if you want them to start dealing with entitlements. what are we talking about when we say democrats need to deal with entitlements? principally, it's medicare. so that's a huge down payment right there. you can say, well, i don't really believe they're possible, but that's a real proposal. what you're asking for in terms of the politics is that the president somehow solves john boehner's problems with his own caucus. and gives him the strength to go back and be the leader of that rowdy bunch of house republicans. that is not -- that is a hard ask for a president. >>
here's the level of deficit reduction i can reach. if you think you can reach the same or more with more spending cuts, you go first and name them. >> yeah. >> so richard, we have everybody playing chicken for the most part. it's kabuki. you show your spending cuts and then i'll show mine. >> right. it failed before when the president was negotiating against himself. look, i'm going to come back. $400 billion of medicare cuts is exactly what you would want democrats to do if...
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it means emphasizing jobs and growth instead of deficit reduction. that's something that's going to make liberals in washington extremely happy and the whole package including this debt ceiling, getting rid of congress's authority over the debt ceiling is something -- it is just politically strong. it is going to make his voters feel emboldened. they're going to give them something to rally around instead of a discussion on numbers and how much are we going to give to entitlements. he said to his base and to his voters who just re-elected him by a reasonably handy margin, we've got something to fight for here. >> eliot: i don't want to go off on the conversation exclusively about the debt ceiling but he's right about saying to congress you pass the spending bills you pass the taxing bills therefore when we hit the debt ceiling, it is merely carrying out your own legislation. i shouldn't need to go back to you to fund the debt plus there is the constitutional argument. he's saying to john boehner i'm taking your leverage home with me. he's right about
it means emphasizing jobs and growth instead of deficit reduction. that's something that's going to make liberals in washington extremely happy and the whole package including this debt ceiling, getting rid of congress's authority over the debt ceiling is something -- it is just politically strong. it is going to make his voters feel emboldened. they're going to give them something to rally around instead of a discussion on numbers and how much are we going to give to entitlements. he said to...
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. $2.4 trillion were the bush tax cuts that resulted in this enormous deficit, because in the 199os, we had a $5.6 trillion surplus. what the president is trying to do is to give relief to working people, and as well provide revenue to continue to support the needs of this nation. such as mayor bloomberg, who's just come to washington and asked for an enormous amount of money, rightly so, to help those who've been victims of hurricane sandy. so the president is not in any way suggesting that he's not willing to negotiate. he asked the questions, when are the republicans going to be considerate of those who get up every day and work? or those who need medicare or social security and medicaid? that is what the bottom line is for the president and for democrats, to protect benefits in a reasonable manner, and to ensure that we have the revenue to bring down the deficit and to continue to operate in the needs of the american people. >> i'd like to talk about those entitlement programs because i know that this is very near and dear to your heart. the lion's share of the $400 billion in cu
. $2.4 trillion were the bush tax cuts that resulted in this enormous deficit, because in the 199os, we had a $5.6 trillion surplus. what the president is trying to do is to give relief to working people, and as well provide revenue to continue to support the needs of this nation. such as mayor bloomberg, who's just come to washington and asked for an enormous amount of money, rightly so, to help those who've been victims of hurricane sandy. so the president is not in any way suggesting that...
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that is the way we are going to reduce the deficit by creating jobs. and every step of the way, every time we came to the idea of big, bold, balanced, the revenue question was the hurdle and it still s. you just can't get there from here in terms of deficit reduction. you cannot cut your way there. you can grow your way there but you have to have the revenue as part of the confidence building that we are fiscally responsible, that we're going to reduce the deficit and that we can get the job done. why am icon fy dent? because it's the right thing to do. the american people expect and deserve this to happen. it's only a decision. it's only a decision to make tough choices, they are tough choices for us. this isn't easy, but it's necessary. and i have confidence that my republican colleagues will see the light and at least pass the middle income tax cut so we have that level of confidence and we can go from there. >> considering how speaker boehner has rejected the idea of extending tax cuts for those making more than $2 oh 50,000. are discussions stalle
that is the way we are going to reduce the deficit by creating jobs. and every step of the way, every time we came to the idea of big, bold, balanced, the revenue question was the hurdle and it still s. you just can't get there from here in terms of deficit reduction. you cannot cut your way there. you can grow your way there but you have to have the revenue as part of the confidence building that we are fiscally responsible, that we're going to reduce the deficit and that we can get the job...
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we want to stop the spending problem so we can then go about trying to manage down the debt and deficit. >> nbc's first read made this point. the white house is sending the message that if republicans want entitlement reform, they're the ones who will have to propose it. how much of this is about getting the gop to do some of the dirty work on a sticky issue for democrats? >> i think that is a very big part of it. look, nobody -- we just went through a campaign in which medicare, the ryan budget, and changes to medicare and cuts out of medicare were such a huge issue, both sides claiming that they wanted to protect seniors. but, look, i think the democrats believe that they have an opportunity, they have leverage on the tax issue, that they don't want to talk about these entitlement changes until the republicans agree to increase the tax rate on the top 2%. because after all, there was a bill that passed out of the senate and they believe that at the end of the day, if that bill is still on the plate, on the republicans' plate in the house, they'll have to pass it staring down the fisca
we want to stop the spending problem so we can then go about trying to manage down the debt and deficit. >> nbc's first read made this point. the white house is sending the message that if republicans want entitlement reform, they're the ones who will have to propose it. how much of this is about getting the gop to do some of the dirty work on a sticky issue for democrats? >> i think that is a very big part of it. look, nobody -- we just went through a campaign in which medicare,...
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congress could slash your 401(k) savings to address the deficit. that means those 61 million hardworking americans with workplace retirement plans might not have comfortable, secure retireme retirements, after all. >> okay, that's scary. joining me, personal finance expert carmen wong ulrich. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> you look at that, and you think the sky is falling. would they really touch your 401(k), your i.r.a.? >> it sounds terrifying but i doubt this will happen. even though the top 20% of americans tend to utilize 80% of retirement savings, but the 401(k) is the middle-income way to save for retirement. and here's where they could hit you. for example, this is pre-tax money that you're saving, right? they could hit you there. this is money that you can actually grow tax free. they could hit you with that. but here's where it will hit retirees when it comes to raising taxes on income levels. in retirement when you may money out of your 401(k), it's taxed as income. i.r.a., this is where folks save outside post-tax money into r
congress could slash your 401(k) savings to address the deficit. that means those 61 million hardworking americans with workplace retirement plans might not have comfortable, secure retireme retirements, after all. >> okay, that's scary. joining me, personal finance expert carmen wong ulrich. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> you look at that, and you think the sky is falling. would they really touch your 401(k), your i.r.a.? >> it sounds terrifying but i doubt...
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so the fiscal cliff would address the deficit problem. it is $5.5 trillion to the deficit. nobody wants it to happen. you know, the interesting thing about the president's proposal, i disagree with the stimulus spending being included. i support stimulus spending but that is kind of an extraneous issue right now. the cliff is basically the expiration of the tax rates and the across the board spending cuts of about 9% across defense and all domestic spending. that is the fiscal cliff. we shouldn't be dealing with other issues that are long term in order to avert the cliff as it were. that is immediate crisis. we have long term situation --. bill: but you know when lawmakers get a little bit of rope, you know, when they get time to think about it and push it off to the next year, it never gets done. this budget proposal, there are many who wonder whether or not even democrats could support it. the last budget that came from the white house went to the senate, it went 98-0 against it. no one voted for it. melissa: well, that was kind of a tricky parliamentary issue as well but
so the fiscal cliff would address the deficit problem. it is $5.5 trillion to the deficit. nobody wants it to happen. you know, the interesting thing about the president's proposal, i disagree with the stimulus spending being included. i support stimulus spending but that is kind of an extraneous issue right now. the cliff is basically the expiration of the tax rates and the across the board spending cuts of about 9% across defense and all domestic spending. that is the fiscal cliff. we...
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and it's clear today that important first step rebuilding the trust deficit, closing the trust deficit, a long way to go. >> john king, thanks so much. good to see you. >>> a warning from the fda about one of the most prescribed drugs in the u.s. new details of a massive recall. i love the holidays. and with my bankamericard cash rewards credit card, i love 'em even more. i earn 1% cash back everywhere, every time. 2% on groceries. 3% on gas. automatically. no hoops to jump...
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for $4 trillion deficit reduction in ten years, $1.6 trillion comes from households earning more than $250,000 a year. $400 billion in entitlement cuts in program like medicare and medicaid and $50 billion in new spending next year for inf infrastructu infrastructure. there's another idea. a permanent cease fire on raising the debt ceiling now $16 trillion that would allow it to rise automatically. republicans use the debt ceiling last year to extract spending cuts and they don't want to give up that leverage. >> there's a lot of things i've wanted in my life but almost all of them had a price tag attached to them. and if we're going to talk about the debt limit in this, there's going to be some price tag associated with it. >> reporter: the white house still seat tchlsiethes over las fight and doesn't want a replay. >> to ensure that the united states of america pays its bills and does not default for the first time in its history is deeply irresponsible. >> reporter: the more both sides talk, the more complications they discover. the white house says nothing will move forward until
for $4 trillion deficit reduction in ten years, $1.6 trillion comes from households earning more than $250,000 a year. $400 billion in entitlement cuts in program like medicare and medicaid and $50 billion in new spending next year for inf infrastructu infrastructure. there's another idea. a permanent cease fire on raising the debt ceiling now $16 trillion that would allow it to rise automatically. republicans use the debt ceiling last year to extract spending cuts and they don't want to give...
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that adds to the deficit. somebody who makes more like $40,000 a year their tax savings is more like $91. it's a cherished middle class tax cut. some say it's more of a cherished upper middle class tax cut. the housing industry spending an awful lot of money lobbying to make sure this doesn't change. they say at a time when the housing market is just starting to recover, the last thing you want to do is take away that tax break. you would see home prices drop 15%. i've heard 20%. this is not the right time in a very fragile recovery for housing to start changing the tax advantage of home ownership. this is a fight that you're going to see play out and quite frankly there are people on the coasts and in those high-cost, high housing cost places as well nervously watching to see what happens with the mortgage deduction. mortgage rates still very, very low. can i show you yesterday's mortgage rates? 30-year fixed is 3.32%, deb. >> wow sthrks. >> 15-year fixed, popular refinancing tool, 2.64%. very low mortgage ra
that adds to the deficit. somebody who makes more like $40,000 a year their tax savings is more like $91. it's a cherished middle class tax cut. some say it's more of a cherished upper middle class tax cut. the housing industry spending an awful lot of money lobbying to make sure this doesn't change. they say at a time when the housing market is just starting to recover, the last thing you want to do is take away that tax break. you would see home prices drop 15%. i've heard 20%. this is not...